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Old 25th July 2014, 11:53 PM
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For years, poor Hispanics from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and several other Central American countries have been coming across the Mexican / American border, in search of a better life in America. This has been a sore topic for a long time here in the states....but lately it's been ramped up to even higher levels. Because suddenly there's a 117% increase of children under the age of 12 trying to get into our country in the not-so-legal way of just crossing the border. A lot of those kids are by themselves. Their parents are still back in Mexico. Obama is allowing them in, and searching for ways to help them, and many are outraged by this.

I disagree with a lot of things that Obama does, but I agree with him on this issue. I personally cannot see why anyone would not want to help these people (the kids in particular). Is America in debt? Yes. Do we have our own problems that we have to deal with? Yes. But that doesn't mean that we should close our doors to helping others. We may be in debt and we have our own problems, but we're STILL BETTER OFF than the poor people in Mexico and Central America. We have the means to help them, therefore the moral thing to do, is to HELP THEM!

One of the places that they want to temporarily hold the kids is right here at Maxwell Air Force base in Alabama....about 150 miles from me. Our governor is saying that his concern is the strain that it will put on our education system if we have to enroll the kids in our schools. Really? Human beings are in need of help, and your only concern is how their problems affect you? They're trying to escape hunger, corrupt government and drug wars in their homeland.....they come to America because it's billed as "the land of the free and the home of the brave"...and it's seen as the place where your dreams can come true.....and all some Americans can do is deny them the chance for a better life. I just don't get it....
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Old 26th July 2014, 12:30 AM
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brilliant post matt.

I 100% agree with you.

These kids are victims of economic madness.

They've been let down by the whole world. We owe it to them to right some wrongs.

You say 'we' have no money, but that isn't strictly true is it ??

The executives class have never had it so good. The stock markets are at an historic high. Shareholders have been having party these last few years.

We had the first short-selling BILLIONAIRE in recent weeks [middle men with split second advantage creaming off profits for doing nothing].

Also, their country has been devastated by the so-called 'war on drugs'. When hundreds of people are beheaded and left on the side of the road you know that uncivilised chaos has gripped the country that they had no choice to be born in.

These kids are refugees from an unwinnable war that is devastating families and communities.

medicalise and legalise drugs and the gangsters will vanish overnight.
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Old 26th July 2014, 12:36 AM
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brilliant post matt.

I 100% agree with you.

These kids are victims of economic madness.

They've been let down by the whole world. We owe it to them to right some wrongs.

You say 'we' have no money, but that isn't strictly true is it ??

The executives class have never had it so good. The stock markets are at an historic high. Shareholders have been having party these last few years.

We had the first short-selling BILLIONAIRE in recent weeks [middle men with split second advantage creaming off profits for doing nothing].

Also, their country has been devastated by the so-called 'war on drugs'. When hundreds of people are beheaded and left on the side of the road you know that uncivilised chaos has gripped the country that they had no choice to be born in.

These kids are refugees from an unwinnable war that is devastating families and communities.

medicalise and legalise drugs and the gangsters will vanish overnight.
Sounds a bit like what ISIS are doing in Iraq & Syria
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Old 26th July 2014, 12:52 AM
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Jimmy, I agree with everything you said except the part about legalizing drugs. That's where we disagree. We won't win by giving up the fight against drugs. That would be like saying that murderers shouldn't be put in prison....that killing would stop if murder wasn't a crime. Doesn't make sense.
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Old 26th July 2014, 01:19 AM
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madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

We've been fighting the unminnable war on drugs for several decades and consumption has gone up and the gangsterism gets worse and worse.

It's time for a step change in the way we deal with the problem.

How you have made the leap from drug consumption to MURDER is very confusing to me.

The gangsters and black marketeers are the real culprits. If you legalise and medicalise you take the gangsters out of the equation. Shrink the black market and empty our jails.

Prohibition means that quality is unreliable, drugs are cut with other chemicals for profit. A lot of the time these 'filler' chemicals are more dangerous than the actual drugs themselves.

Some people will always take drugs, it's a fact of life that goes back to the dawn of mankind. The word 'cannabis' means 'cultivated' because it was one of mans first cultivated crops. It's part of human nature.

Drugs are not the devil, they have a role to play in society. Christianity itself uses wine in it's iconography. And alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. When people get together and chant they induce an hypnotic state like many drugs do. And psychedelics can open up parts of the subconscious brain and aid our understanding of ourselves.

There is a tolerance level for most drugs, even alcohol [which is one of the most poisonous] and prohibition does nothing to try and educate people how to keep safe. We need to take drugs out of the hands of the police and justice system and put them in the hands of enlightened medics.
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Another tragedy arising from the same issue:

Finding the names for America
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And alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs known to man.
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whaaa???? What'd'you say??
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