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JB40
3rd June 2011, 04:14 PM
Even though southern cross have gone t*ts up, politicians are lining up to reassure the public that this isn't a general reflection of private health care. Even labour politicians.

And, of course it was labour that put the PFI [private finance initiatives] in to practice after it was first developed by the tories.

the way it's supposed to work is that a private company puts up the money to build and run a hospital, and the tax-payer pays the money back for start up costs, and money each year to run it, for the next 30 years.

politicians claimed that it was cheaper than just building and running another NHS hospital. But that wasn't strictly true. future generations would be paying much MORE for private hospitals than their NHS equivalent.

the only advantage was that the tax-payer wouldn't have to pay up front the way we do with the NHS. That way the exorbitant costs of private health could be kept of the balance sheets of that years accounts. A typical financial conjuring trick.

once the PFI's were up and running, costs started to soar. The original quotes from the private firms were vastly under-estimated. It was almost like they had plucked a number out of the air, just to satisfy the politicians. Even though those companies were supposed to be taking all the risks, they threatened to pull out of the projects leaving half-built hospitals. They held the government to ransom, insisting on even MORE tax payers money.

then, when the hospitals were eventually finished, they packaged them up, tied a neat little bow around them, and sold them on in the financial markets. Underpinned by tax payers money. pocketing MILLIONS of pounds worth of OUR money in the process. in the end, the financial groups that built the hospitals were just middle-men who did it for massive financial reward.

I remember, back in the early days of the band, a local hostel. It was part of maggies drive towards privatizing the whole country. This hostel was full of very vulnerable people. Alcoholics, people with mental problems, drug addicts etc. Every day you would see these people wandering the streets. The reason for this was because they were thrown out first thing in the morning, after an obligatory bowl of porridge, and not let back in until late at night. The people who ran the hostel were paid thousands per week to keep them. So they spent as little as they could get away with, and pocketed the rest.

when the tories started selling off parts of the NHS back in the 80's, one of the first things to go was hospital cleaning. when the hospitals lost control of cleanliness, they lost control of hygene. MRSA was the result.

the tories stood on a platform of no radical change for the NHS. Cameron said 'it's safe in our hands'.

you don't think he could have been lying do you ??

and one of cameron's advisers has been found telling a roomful private health company reps in america that there has never been a better time for those companies to take advantage of the dismantling of our NHS. It's a bonanza time for the health multi-nationals.

JB40
3rd June 2011, 04:45 PM
a little bit of extra info.

the southern cross care homes have passed through the hands of at least three different private 'investors'. Each time it was re-packaged and sold on. No doubt with those 'investors' pocketing a small fortune along the way.

the last company to own them bought the homes because of the profit they would make selling those homes off to private landlords. those private landlords immediately put up the rents for care homes. So, to pay for that, they cut staff and costs accordingly.

ANiMALicious
3rd June 2011, 05:33 PM
maybe thats a new job i should be looking into... could do with the cash ;)


Ani

jstancer
3rd June 2011, 10:00 PM
a little bit of extra info.

the southern cross care homes have passed through the hands of at least three different private 'investors'. Each time it was re-packaged and sold on. No doubt with those 'investors' pocketing a small fortune along the way.

the last company to own them bought the homes because of the profit they would make selling those homes off to private landlords. those private landlords immediately put up the rents for care homes. So, to pay for that, they cut staff and costs accordingly.

surely you've got something else todo mate

andybluenoes
3rd June 2011, 10:38 PM
you don't think he could have been lying do you ??

A politician lying? Come on JIm, get real

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