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Mike.
6th May 2010, 12:43 PM
Who will you vote? Remember, we can't see who posts what here!

Nes B40
6th May 2010, 12:50 PM
None of the above lol.

Mike.
6th May 2010, 12:58 PM
Not even 'other'???

:):):)

ANiMALicious
6th May 2010, 01:09 PM
Monsters Inc.

but aint they dead an buried with Screaming Lord Such?


Ani

JB40
6th May 2010, 02:16 PM
I went to the polling station earlier today, looking for a left-leaning candidate to vote for.
My choice was:
'New' Labour.
Conservative.
Lib-Dems.
UKIP.
BNP.


I turned around and walked straight back out without voting.

oLdbOi
6th May 2010, 02:30 PM
green party I think...just to stop them all knocking at my door this evening

bOi

Starshine007
6th May 2010, 06:15 PM
The only election poster up in this street is one over the road for the green party. I know that wasn't the question but anyhow......

Nizzy
6th May 2010, 06:26 PM
We had an Independent who's a mate of mine - eeeeezy!

The Socialist Labour Party were standing here and next door, Jim. They're the party Arthur Scargill started up and have a bit of a presence round these parts - sounds more like your cuppa.

Right, I'm for tea, bath and a snooze. Working after hours for the paper tonight covering the count. We're told the result should be in by three a.m., then we're going back in to work at the office with colleagues from elsewhere to get the coverage battered out. Should be in me bed by noon. Jeez.

Anyway, hope yez all vote and keep out that Jam/Smiths-loving Tory. Johann Harri's coverage in the Independent yesterday on what could be in store from Dave was magnificent and should have been published everywhere. I'll stay in the frying-pan if you don't mind.

Dean M
6th May 2010, 08:40 PM
Monsters Inc.

but aint they dead an buried with Screaming Lord Such?


Ani

they have some good policies
Official Monster Raving Loony Party - Manifesto proposals (http://loonyparty.com.nyud.net/index.php?page=manifestoproposals-1)


this made me laugh

Bugged Singers
All singers who's names sound like infectious diseases( i.e: Chriestina Aguilera, Natalie Imbruglia) will be provided with free antibiotics courtesy of the NHS, just in case it spreads. You can never be safe enough

DreamBig
6th May 2010, 09:10 PM
Monster raving loonie party wants to turn London into a theme park, that gets a win in my book.

Anyway, if I could vote, I know who'd I'd vote for, it's not the monster raving loonies

Starshine007
6th May 2010, 09:15 PM
See how you feel once you're 18 and have the right to vote Anant.

DreamBig
7th May 2010, 07:53 PM
Oh, I'll love to exercise my RIGHT to vote

Starshine007
7th May 2010, 08:46 PM
I wonder who you'll be voting for ... then.... don't tell me now, wait and see.

JB40
7th May 2010, 08:48 PM
yes M. I think our resident medic still has a lot to learn about politics. he seems to think it's some kind of game.

Starshine007
7th May 2010, 08:50 PM
Ooh that's a bit harsh but he will learn once he has to look after his own (lack of) finances, particularly when he's a student.

DreamBig
7th May 2010, 10:33 PM
It IS a game, what else is it? It's having mere banter with debating, and trying to improve people's lives.

I'm going to have 50,000 of debt, or possibly even more. Not only that, but half of what I learn will be out of date when I graduate :(

JB40
7th May 2010, 10:40 PM
REAL politics is about right and wrong. It's profound and fundamental to the survival of the human race.
What you are talking about Anant is just media spin, with no substance and no discernible goal apart from the need to be elected. Don't confuse that with real politics, which is about our sense of right and wrong. And how we should treat other people.

DreamBig
7th May 2010, 10:48 PM
Ah, yes I see. The vibe the media are giving is that's it's a race to gain power.

In my opinion real politics is about deciding how to manage society. Naturally society needs to be managed. In the olde days, the social control was religion, and now it's politics.

JB40
7th May 2010, 11:54 PM
Real politics is about more than management Anant. What about personal politics? The politics of sexuality and gender, the politics of race? These are things that we all deal with in our lives, things THAT intimate aren't always dealt with through legislation. There's a philosophical dimension to politics too.
I'm not really talking about the baby-kissing, chattering classes that we see begging for votes in the media. Most of those are just ex-barristers who have found another gravy train, and a way of satisfying their ego's. It's about how we live our lives and treat each other, those closest to us, and the world around us.
If you really want to understand what's going on in British politics, then you need look no further than the british class system. This election is no different.
Working class people vote labour. Middle class people vote conservative.
And that's about it.

DreamBig
7th May 2010, 11:58 PM
working class people do traditionally vote labour, but I really think labour has been straying right over the last few years, and doesn't really represent working class as much.

JB40
8th May 2010, 12:02 AM
yes Anant. That was what people were saying. The end of tribalism they said. Problem is, the class system is so ingrained in to the fabric of british society that it doesn't take much to revert to type.

Starshine007
8th May 2010, 12:04 AM
So, do we actually have that many "middle class" in the UK, or do the majority of those who voted tory this time round just aspire to be middle class? Or was the swing due to disillusionment with Gordon and his morons? I'm thinking the latter.

DreamBig
8th May 2010, 12:05 AM
Thing is, I don't understand the class system. What does it take to become a member of the aristocracy. Buying some land?

Also, I was under the impression that Doctors were upper middle class. I'd hate to be upper middle class, they're people everyone seems to hate

Starshine007
8th May 2010, 12:09 AM
Also, I was under the impression that Doctors were upper middle class. I'd hate to be upper middle class, they're people everyone seems to hate

Historically it was only the upper middle class/rich who could afford education, hence doctors were one group made up solely from that demographic. Nowdays, its technically possible for a far broader range of the population to go to university so by the time you make consultant things may well have changed. Alternatively, you can always become a bus driver.

JB40
8th May 2010, 06:21 PM
Well, all the final votes are in.
When it comes to the share of the vote there isn't really that much between them.
The tories had 36%
'New' labour had 29%
The Lib-Dems had 23%

Looks like the lib-dems had quite a large portion of the popular vote, but it didn't translate into seats. They had 52 seats. The tories, only 16 percentage points ahead had over 300 seats. I was never good at maths, but those numbers don't add up to me.

Starshine007
8th May 2010, 07:16 PM
Ok, can't think of anything other than the majority of the lib dems 23% was cast in seats where either labour or tory support was stronger.

DreamBig
9th May 2010, 12:43 AM
Well, all the final votes are in.
When it comes to the share of the vote there isn't really that much between them.
The tories had 36%
'New' labour had 29%
The Lib-Dems had 23%

Looks like the lib-dems had quite a large portion of the popular vote, but it didn't translate into seats. They had 52 seats. The tories, only 16 percentage points ahead had over 300 seats. I was never good at maths, but those numbers don't add up to me.

That's one of the reasons that Lib Dems want PR,

I think it's an absolutely ridiculous idea though

Also, the reason for that maths fail is that Lib Dem's votes were spread out, whereas Conservative's and Labour's were more concentrated, therefore more likely to win seats

McDUB BOY aka Superal
10th May 2010, 10:03 AM
Shit i just voted bnp , should have been snp , sorry loonies

DreamBig
10th May 2010, 08:39 PM
:laff:

McDUB BOY aka Superal
10th May 2010, 09:34 PM
Not funny doc , lol

Starshine007
10th May 2010, 09:39 PM
Could be worse Bernie, at least you didn't vote tory.

McDUB BOY aka Superal
10th May 2010, 09:51 PM
True , lol

JB40
11th May 2010, 05:22 PM
It looks like 'new' labour are finished. Talks of a coalition between labour and the lib-dems are over. That means we will have a lib-dem/tory government. I don't see that lasting very long, there are too many ideological differences between them.
Hopefully we will have a strong opposition. The tories don't have much of a mandate from the voters, so maybe labour can prevent the tories from destroying the country the way maggie thatcher did.

Starshine007
11th May 2010, 06:01 PM
There's a poll on Facebook (probably as accurate as any other...) asking what people would want to happen next next. Current results are:

42% Labour & Lib Dem

24% Tory & Lib Dems/DUP

34% Another General Election

Nes B40
11th May 2010, 06:23 PM
Another general election, I said that that's what they should do to my missus yesterday.

Starshine007
11th May 2010, 07:12 PM
I think that was the general consensus at work today too. I was too busy to listen.

JB40
12th May 2010, 03:59 PM
What a difference 24 hours makes.
Todays press conference was hilarious. They were a real double act. And Clegg and Cameron look very comfortable in each others company. That's quite scary. But I still think the parties are a match made in hell, even if the leaders look interchangeable. The image they seem to be putting across is very similar to Blairs 'new' labour. Governing from the centre, with the occasional dodge to the left or the right [usually the right]. Unless labour find their roots again they won't be very effective in opposition. And a lot of left leaning lib-dem voters might feel a bit betrayed. So how long it will last is anyones guess.

Starshine007
12th May 2010, 05:17 PM
What happens if the coalition falls apart before Labour elect their new leader and put their house in order? Some interesting decisions on the new cabinet, though I still can't see it suceeding for long, if at all.