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Rebel Soul
9th January 2010, 04:59 PM
The most widespread child abuse in Britain is perpetrated by the Government

The drive to abolish childhood continues apace. The government is ordering “sex education” to be imposed on primary school children from as young as five. The premature sexualisation of children and the encouragement of prurient interest in sexual matters at a tender age has already provoked increasing numbers of underage pregnancies (which the hypocrites enforcing this degenerate agenda claim it is designed to reduce), but still the fanatics persist in destroying what little remains of childhood innocence in this decadent age.

While anti-paedophile hysteria prevents a mother from pushing her own child on a swing in a playground without undergoing criminal record checks, the most widespread child abuse in this country is being perpetrated by the government. No thought is given to the psychologically disturbing effect on young children of their perception of their parents as a result of unnecessary information about reproduction being imposed on them.

Why are seven-year-olds to be taught about reproduction? To avoid underage pregnancies, is the stock reply from the nomenklatura. Really? How many seven-year-olds fell pregnant last year? The soaring underage pregnancy rates tell their own story about the counterproductive effects of this deluded doctrine. To enforce it further, the government is reducing parental rights to withdraw children from sex education classes. Will Dave Cameron, defender of the family and supposed zealot for devolving power to parents, reverse that? Wait and see – but don’t hold your breath.

A further aggression against conscience is the imposition on faith schools of a duty to teach this rebarbative curriculum. The cosmetic concession is that they may do so within the “tenets of their faith”; but they must impart the factual information on contraception, homosexuality, etc. So, are Catholic schools supposed to say to pupils: “Contraception is a mortal sin. Now, here are the methods and how to employ them…” or “The Church condemns sodomy as one of the Four Sins Crying to Heaven for Vengeance, but in case you are interested, here’s the deal…”?

If that seems insane, it is in fact simply a cynical method of enforcing anti-Christian values on faith schools. It will be interesting, however, to see how the government sets about the enforcement of such teaching in the more robust environment of Muslim schools. Suddenly, it’s fatwah time for New Labour…

This New Labour government has been the most virulently anti-family, anti-Judaeo-Christian ethic administration in British history. It has unravelled the whole fabric of society with its anti-family crusade. In this it betrays its Frankfurt School of Marxism agenda, which it shares with the EU. Compulsory sex education was always a major plank in the Frankfurt School’s programme.

When Georg Lukács became Commissar of Public Education in the short-lived Communist dictatorship of Béla Kun in Hungary in 1919, he enforced on schools a curriculum of pornographic sex education, encouraging promiscuity and trashing Christian values. The aim was to divorce children from their parents and traditional morality, to break down the hated institution of the family as part of his agenda of “cultural terrorism”. The legacy was a generation of sociopaths in Hungary. Four years later he helped found the Frankfurt School, the most influential cultural and sociological trend in the degenerate West today. We are living under its malevolent influence.

Gerald Warner, Daily Telegraph, Nov 2009
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Would be interested in your views on Warner's article - btw, the title of the original article is exactly as I've written it in bold.

JB40
9th January 2010, 05:04 PM
Sounds to me like that writer is full of sh*t.

Sal
9th January 2010, 06:22 PM
Sounds to me like that writer is full of sh*t.

Well I certainly hope he is Jim because the idea of giving any form of sex education to a 5 year old infant appalls me deeply. It a bl**dy crime that children of today are robbed of the most precious thing they will ever experience and the one thing that they will only ever get ONE shot at........ CHILDHOOD. :madder: :madder: :madder:

Sal
9th January 2010, 06:26 PM
To enforce it further, the government is reducing parental rights to withdraw children from sex education classes.

Yeah right !!!! :laff:.........see you in court then !!! http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii106/domi72/smiley/smiley_finger.gif :madder:

JB40
9th January 2010, 06:28 PM
Where are the statistics to back up the rant? There must be a way of showing that areas where schools have sex education, there are more teenage pregnancies. I suspect there are no such statistics because it's bo**ox.

Rebel Soul
9th January 2010, 06:57 PM
The drive to abolish childhood continues apace. The government is ordering “sex education” to be imposed on primary school children from as young as five.

This is a grotesque move on the part of the government.

NUB40
9th January 2010, 07:01 PM
My youngest went through sex education when he was 9yrs,due to having a "late in the school year birthday" even though we are a very open family and i never fail to answer any question my kids ever asked i found that it was too much for him and i really cant see the sense of trying to teach them any earlier :roll:

flyin'irie
9th January 2010, 10:16 PM
This looks like a personal crusade of the writer backed by very little facts.
5 years old (if it's true :?::?:)....sounds way too early tho....

Starshine007
9th January 2010, 10:24 PM
Where are the statistics to back up the rant? There must be a way of showing that areas where schools have sex education, there are more teenage pregnancies. I suspect there are no such statistics because it's bo**ox.

I can find statistics on teenage conception rates, but nothing so far to correlate them to areas where schools have sex ed lessons.

Oh and teaching kids sex education at the age of 5? Who came up with that bright idea? All I was bothered about at that age was where my next pack of sweeties was coming from and riding my shiny red bicycle.

JB40
9th January 2010, 11:44 PM
And have those conception rates been spiralling out of control in recent years M ??

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 12:13 AM
Not heinously so from the random sample I looked at. One or two were totally even for a few years running but I'll delve a bit further....

In 2008 the government's direct.gov website had this to say:

The Office of National Statistics figures show teenage pregnancy rates continuing to fall with a reduction in both the under 18 and the under 16 rates during 2006:

* A 13.3 per cent overall reduction in the under 18 conception rate in England since the 1998 baseline and a two per cent reduction from the 2005 rate
* a 13.0 per cent overall reduction in the under 16 conception rate in England since 1998 and a one per cent reduction from the 2005 rate
* between 1998 and 2006, 89 per cent of local authorities have seen an overall reduction in their under 18 conception rate (compared with 83% in 2005)
* the decline in the under 18 conception rate in England contrasts sharply with increases in the conception rate for all other age groups, highlighting the impact of the Teenage Pregnancy Strategy.

JB40
10th January 2010, 12:21 AM
Well those statistics show NO increase in teenage pregnancies in the last 10 years. Just as I suspected. That 'journalist' is using his column to spout his own ill informed prejudices. Typical of the right wing press. It was just a rant.

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 12:23 AM
Ok a couple of random entries from the conception stats:

From 1997 to 2006 in Brum the number of teens giving birth had fallen quite sharply, without a corresponding rise in abortions.

During the same period in Brent (my borough), the numbers of teen births had remained practically equal, as had the number of abortions.

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 12:37 AM
Interestingly, in Hammersmith & Fulham both abortions and births fell drastically, whereas in Salford the birth rate tumbled while the abortion rate rose sharply.

JB40
10th January 2010, 12:38 AM
I think the [tory] commentator who wrote that article had his own agenda. He seems to be trying to say that 'new' labour, and their attempts at social engineering were corrupting society. That it was part of a growing sexualization of children, and this was causing a breakdown in society, resulting in unprecedented numbers of teenage pregnancies. Just as I suspected. when you look at the facts, well they tell a completely different story. Still, can't let the truth get in the way of a good rant.

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 12:43 AM
I'm almost tempted to send said ranter a copy of the spreadsheet with all the data, but I doubt he'd stop ranting long enough to take a look.

JB40
10th January 2010, 01:05 AM
The English press are [mostly] owned by reactionary millionaires with an axe to grind. They use their newspapers, not for news, but to peddle their own agenda. Because they are rich they want to shape the world in their image. Murdoch is the worst, because he is the biggest. But they all try. And none of them will let a little thing like the truth get in the way.

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 01:07 AM
Sensationalism always sells more papers than truth. That's the newspaper owners' bottom line... end of. Anyway, it was an interesting subject to research.

JB40
10th January 2010, 01:09 AM
Good job nurse M.
be interesting to see what others make of it. I think that article has been well and truly shot down in flames.

j59
10th January 2010, 01:42 AM
mmmmmmm, been reading this with interest. I don't see how giving sex education to little kids will prevent teenage pregnancy.

As a parent, I've answered my sons questions as and when he wanted to know. I would rather he heard the facts from me than any one else. Did it ruin his childhood knowing about sex at a young age? not at all. He went back to playing with his cars, watching cartoons etc.

love jx

Rebel Soul
10th January 2010, 01:41 PM
Cheers for those stats, Michele. Much appreciated.

Yes Jimmy, I do see that element of the opposition trying to discredit the party in power. Personally, I don't think Cameron's policy would be any different in this scenario.

flyin'irie
10th January 2010, 02:10 PM
The English press are [mostly] owned by reactionary millionaires with an axe to grind. They use their newspapers, not for news, but to peddle their own agenda.

yes.

Starshine007
10th January 2010, 03:09 PM
Cheers for those stats, Michele. Much appreciated.



You're welcome Imani.

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11th January 2010, 09:20 PM
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